qmail mimic exchange

I'm trying to convince my manager to use qmail instead of MS Exchange.

But we need the "Sent Items" folder, not relying upon some
configuration on the client, but enforced in the server. i.e: All the
mail sent through the SMTP port must be copied to the corresponding
"Sent Items" folder of each user.

Any clues on this?

TIA

On 22 Sep 2005 07:08:23 -0700, vqp <jsagasti@gmail.com> may have written:
> I'm trying to convince my manager to use qmail instead of MS Exchange.
>
> But we need the "Sent Items" folder, not relying upon some
> configuration on the client, but enforced in the server. i.e: All the
> mail sent through the SMTP port must be copied to the corresponding
> "Sent Items" folder of each user.

This *IS* a client setting. SMTP has no concept of saving a message, it
must be configured on the client to upload the message to an IMAP
folder. Exchange doesn't use SMTP/IMAP/POP3 between the client and the
server, so this isn't even a fair comparison.

Cheers,
--
Brian T Glenn
delink.net Internet Services

I had already configured the client to save the outgoing messages in
the IMAP folder and it worked. But I'm looking for a server-side
solution.

"vqp" <jsagasti@gmail.com> writes:

> I had already configured the client to save the outgoing messages in
> the IMAP folder and it worked. But I'm looking for a server-side
> solution.

That's really the wrong place to do it, but you *could* use
QUEUE_EXTRA[1] to copy all messages to a local address that delivers
them to a script that determines which were sent from local users and
somehow (not using the same qmail installation) delivers them to the
user's "sent" folder.

Footnotes:
[1] http://lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#queue_extra

--
Dave Sill Oak Ridge National Lab, Workstation Support
Author, The qmail Handbook <http://web.infoave.net/~dsill>
<http://lifewithqmail.org/>: Almost everything you always wanted to know.

vqp wrote:
> I had already configured the client to save the outgoing messages in
> the IMAP folder and it worked. But I'm looking for a server-side
> solution.
>

While I agree with Dave's approach, it will add unnecessary complexity
to the qmail server. I would start by checking how your clients systems
are setup. Are they in a domain (AD)? Have you setup policies that
deal with configuration of the Outlook Client?

Configuring the user profile to be roaming may do the same thing.

Ignoring for a very, very, very short time the group in which this post
is being made, why are you considering migrating the setup from Exchange
to qmail?

You should start with your answer. The configuration of the user email
clients would be secondary. As long as you setup an IMAP server that
has access to the Maildir and create the proper configuration entry for
the IMAP server you chose to use for the handling of "Sent Items" all
should be fine for the users.

Storing the sent items on the server means that you will continually
need to increase the amount of space available to exchange. Since
access is via IMAP, the storage requirements continually grow.

AK

Thanks for the answers. It is clear now that there is no *easy* way to
do this, and we have to deal with client configurations anyway.

On 22 Sep 2005 07:08:23 -0700, "vqp" <jsagasti@gmail.com> wrote:

>I'm trying to convince my manager to use qmail instead of MS Exchange.
>
>But we need the "Sent Items" folder, not relying upon some
>configuration on the client, but enforced in the server. i.e: All the
>mail sent through the SMTP port must be copied to the corresponding
>"Sent Items" folder of each user.

This is actually Outlook doing this on Exchange, not Exchange
enforcing the policy. Check out group polocies for Outlook - I
believe you may be able to do something there. If you use Exchange
with IMAP (I have a Mac here that does this), the messages have to be
configured to go to sent mail.

Andrew.
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Andrew Hodgson in Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK.
My Email: use <andrew at hodgsonfamily dot org>.