Email Problem ??

We use AVG for our virus protection, and we use Outlook Express for email.
About 1 out of every 20 messages sent, we get the following type replies
which are generated by the AVG antivirus program:


(I am posting two of the error messages below)

-----------------------------------------
1.

This is the AVG E-mail Scanner program.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned
below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.

-------------------------------------------------------------------
Cannot open smtp connection to '65.54.190.230'
Connect: A socket operation was attempted to an unreachable host. (10065)

-------------------------------------------------------------------

Your e-mail message is being returned to you in the next part of this
message. Try to send the message again.

Should you need assistance, please contact your administrator or your
internet service provider.

-----------------------------------------------------------------

2.



This is the AVG E-mail Scanner program.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned
below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.

-------------------------------------------------------------------
DATA: mta187.mail.re2.yahoo.com Resources temporarily unavailable. Please
try again later [#4.16.1].
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Your e-mail message is being returned to you in the next part of this
message. Try to send the message again.

Should you need assistance, please contact your administrator or your
internet service provider.


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QUESTION:

Is there anyone that can tell me why I am getting these messages ?
The other 95% of my mail goes out fine.

Any ideas on this problem please? I will appreciate any helpful advice or
comments.


--James--

It is generally recommended that you disable e-mail anti-virus scanning. It doesn't
provide any additional protection over Resident Shield protection and can only lead to
problems sending or receiving mail.

For further help

Use the following newsgroup for questions or problems with OE6
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...outlookexpress

You can also get to the Outlook Express newsgroups via this web site:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...s/default.mspx
There select Internet Explorer, then Outlook Express.

You will find out information about issues affecting Outlook Express 5/6 at:
http://www.oehelp.com/
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconVall...E_ng_notes.htm
http://home.attbi.com/~jimpickering/
http://www.insideoe.com/
http://www2.cajun.net/~theriots/blk/xp_oe.htm

--

Mike - http://pages.prodigy.net/michael_santovec/techhelp.htm


"James" <jnipperxxx@fdn.com> wrote in message news:33g3mqF3t8vn5U1@individual.net...
>
>
> We use AVG for our virus protection, and we use Outlook Express for email.
> About 1 out of every 20 messages sent, we get the following type replies
> which are generated by the AVG antivirus program:
>
>
> (I am posting two of the error messages below)
>
> -----------------------------------------
> 1.
>
> This is the AVG E-mail Scanner program.
>
> I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned
> below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> Cannot open smtp connection to '65.54.190.230'
> Connect: A socket operation was attempted to an unreachable host. (10065)
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Your e-mail message is being returned to you in the next part of this
> message. Try to send the message again.
>
> Should you need assistance, please contact your administrator or your
> internet service provider.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 2.
>
>
>
> This is the AVG E-mail Scanner program.
>
> I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned
> below could not be delivered to one or more destinations.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> DATA: mta187.mail.re2.yahoo.com Resources temporarily unavailable. Please
> try again later [#4.16.1].
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Your e-mail message is being returned to you in the next part of this
> message. Try to send the message again.
>
> Should you need assistance, please contact your administrator or your
> internet service provider.
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---
>
> QUESTION:
>
> Is there anyone that can tell me why I am getting these messages ?
> The other 95% of my mail goes out fine.
>
> Any ideas on this problem please? I will appreciate any helpful advice or
> comments.
>
>
> --James--
>
>
>

Thank you very much for this response. I will study the links, and try
disabling the mail scanning.


--james--

James writes:

>
>
> We use AVG for our virus protection, and we use Outlook Express for email.
> About 1 out of every 20 messages sent, we get the following type replies
> which are generated by the AVG antivirus program:
>
>
> (I am posting two of the error messages below)

> QUESTION:
>
> Is there anyone that can tell me why I am getting these messages ?
> The other 95% of my mail goes out fine.
>
> Any ideas on this problem please? I will appreciate any helpful advice or
> comments.

I would guess that you have probably been blacklisted by these domains, for
E-mail abuse and mailbombing.

If you haven't been paying attention for the last three years, return
addresses on virus and spam are always forged. So having some cockamamie
virus scanner return unwanted mail to the apparent sender is an
astonishingly stupid, and rude thing to do. All you'll end up doing is
further annoying and harassing the innocent victim of forged spam and virus
messages, who's now getting bombarded with crap from hundreds of other
similarly clueless anti-virus scanners that think that returning the
spam/virus to the forged return address actually accomplishes something.

In this day and age, this behavior is considered to be a security hole,
subject to blacklisting. The correct thing to do is to refuse to accept
unwanted E-mail in the first place; instead of accepting it, figuring it too
late that you don't really want it in the first place, and bouncing it back
to the return address, which is usually forged.

At some point in the past you probably received a bunch of spam or virus
mail that used those domains as their return address. Your broken virus
scanner then proceeded to immediately mailbomb them with bounces and such
crap. Their response was to blacklist and firewalled you. Understandably,
they don't really want you to mailbomb them with garbage that they didn't
send, and that's why you can't send E-mail to them any more.

Just a guess.


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In article <cone.1104366570.353838.12019.500@commodore.emai l-scan.com>, Sam
says...

> I would guess that you have probably been blacklisted by these domains, for
> E-mail abuse and mailbombing.

<snip>

> Just a guess.

You would be wrong. AVG does not cause viral email to be returned to
anybody, it just quarantines, or deletes the infected attachment.

--
Norman
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