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Zach wrote:
> > Why does Larry Ullman in his book "PHP for the world wide web" > have Print ("something"); > in his book if it is Bulltwit? Because it's legal syntax. > > Zach. > > Onideus Mad Hatter wrote: >> On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 00:22:27 +0100, Zach <xx@xx.xx> wrote: >> >>> I am totally new to php >>> Question: >>> I am working on a Vista box. >>> *.php files are displayed OK by the browser, >>> however, >>> >>> print("something"); >>> >>> does not lead to "something" being displayed. >>> What is the cause / what should I do? >>> >>> Zach. >> >> Try echo "something"; print is a function, echo is a language construct. This means you can use print in complex expressions such as: $s ? print "true" : print "false"; Echo can take multiple arguments such as: echo 'hello', ' ', 'world!'; where as print can only take one, print('hello world!'); - Michael |
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:21:09 +1030, Michael
<michael_j@pythontech.net.au> wrote: >Zach wrote: >> >> Why does Larry Ullman in his book "PHP for the world wide web" >> have Print ("something"); >> in his book if it is Bulltwit? >Because it's legal syntax. >> >> Zach. >> >> Onideus Mad Hatter wrote: >>> On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 00:22:27 +0100, Zach <xx@xx.xx> wrote: >>> >>>> I am totally new to php >>>> Question: >>>> I am working on a Vista box. >>>> *.php files are displayed OK by the browser, >>>> however, >>>> >>>> print("something"); >>>> >>>> does not lead to "something" being displayed. >>>> What is the cause / what should I do? >>>> >>>> Zach. >>> >>> Try echo "something"; > >print is a function, echo is a language construct. This means you can >use print in complex expressions such as: > >$s ? print "true" : print "false"; > >Echo can take multiple arguments such as: > >echo 'hello', ' ', 'world!'; > >where as print can only take one, > >print('hello world!'); That's great...I guess. I've never had any need to use anything other than echo. The way you describe it though print seems kinds of...worthless. -- Onideus Mad Hatter mhm ¹ x ¹ http://www.backwater-productions.net http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog Hatter Quotes ------------- "You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the best." "I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you with it." "I'm not a professional, I'm an artist." "Your Usenet blinders are my best friend." "Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!" "Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my bad." "There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..." "The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols." "Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?" "Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others of its relevancy." "Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper." "Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are." "People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just givin em out for free." "Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere. So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest, to their merry little mess." "There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible images burned into their tiny little minds'." "How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts." "Those who record history are those who control history." "I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage, endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you don't get sent to me...I come for you." "Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head." "Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a function?" "Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid. Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast indicates an increase in Webtv users." "Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww, gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, ) |
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Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:31:11 +0100, Zach <xx@xx.xx> wrote: > >> Why does Larry Ullman in his book "PHP for the world wide web" >> have Print ("something"); >> in his book if it is Bulltwit? > > I have no idea who the fuck Larry Ullman is, nor do I particularly > give a fuck either. 10 to 1 though says you've got some kind of > reading comprehension problem and 'ol Larry was just using an example > of common programming syntax in other languages. And no offense or > anything but spending money on a book for PHP is just...fuckin stupid > at best considering this site: > http://us3.php.net Keep it civilized Mad Hatter. No need to bully a newbie around. > ...you really shouldn't need anything more than that to learn how to > program in PHP, and if you do, well, you best not consider it for a > career. What do you know? Maybe this Zach has 10 times more talent than you have? How can you tell? You are overconfident and rude to Zach. Give the guy some room... > > Also, stop top posting, it makes you look like a retard when you can't > even comprehend something as simplistic as thread continuity. That is true for this group, but not for all. The fact that Zach didn't know that is completely forgivable. A simple correction might be in place, instead of calling him a retard. Having a bad day Hatter? Erwin Moller PS: Zach, don't pay too much attention to assholish reactions like this. In general comp.lang.php is a better place to post than the this one (alt.comp.lang.php). More people read it, so better responses. Good luck with PHP! |
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:51:18 +0100, Erwin Moller
<Since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much@spam yourself.com> wrote: >>> Why does Larry Ullman in his book "PHP for the world wide web" >>> have Print ("something"); >>> in his book if it is Bulltwit? >> I have no idea who the fuck Larry Ullman is, nor do I particularly >> give a fuck either. 10 to 1 though says you've got some kind of >> reading comprehension problem and 'ol Larry was just using an example >> of common programming syntax in other languages. And no offense or >> anything but spending money on a book for PHP is just...fuckin stupid >> at best considering this site: >> http://us3.php.net >Keep it civilized Mad Hatter. This is Usenet, Kiddo, not some teddy bear fucking picnic surprise of a ban happy Webbie board. If you don't like it you can retard on back to Webbie land with all the ban happy wannabe tin God mod pricks who wanna hold yer hand, wipe your ass for you and make dat mean 'ol Internet bad man go all away when he upsets you to the point of staining yer frilly little pink training panties in every other post. >No need to bully a newbie around. LOL, as if that post even remotely resembled bullying. See this: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.f...40a63eea26ff44 ....that's "bullying" (at least as far as my standard goes). >> ...you really shouldn't need anything more than that to learn how to >> program in PHP, and if you do, well, you best not consider it for a >> career. >What do you know? I know enough to tell the difference between a college flunkie and a programming artist. >Maybe this Zach has 10 times more talent than you have? >How can you tell? I can tell by the fact that he can't even get the most BASIC of basic things to work in PHP...despite near limitless resources on the web...despite his buying some PHP for dummies book that likely explains every little minute step involved in setting everything up. Here's a fun idea...go email every single high level programmer you know...and ask them if they ever had trouble getting "print" to work. I mean, let's be brutally honest here...it's like showing up in a programming froup and asking, "How do I program "Hello World". >You are overconfident and rude to Zach. I'm rude to everyone (not to mention an uber arrogant bastard)...so I don't see what the problem is. It's not as if this is some new posting style. And if you don't like...hey, put yerself on some blinders (filters) and shut yourself the fuck up. I for one will be happy to rid as much fumbling stupidity from my glorious thread offshoots as possible. >Give the guy some room... Nah, best to tear 'em down early, rip out the weak so only the strong will survive. Breeding competition and rivalry to further the art. >> Also, stop top posting, it makes you look like a retard when you can't >> even comprehend something as simplistic as thread continuity. >That is true for this group, but not for all. Yes, FOR ALL Usenet groups you DO NOT FUCKING TOP POST...EVER! If you can't comprehend why that is, you're a dumbfuck of epic proportions. Hell if you top post, you must be so fuckin stupid you read books backwards, starting with the last page and working your way down to page one. Honestly, thread continuity is not something that's very difficult to gasp and the only REAL excuse for doing it is if you haven't enough sense to evolve past the deficiency of Outhouse Express (which treats Usenet posts like e-mails). >The fact that Zach didn't know that is completely forgivable. Hey I asked nice the first time...which is pretty generous considering my character. >A simple correction might be in place, instead of calling him a retard. Where's the fun in that? >Having a bad day Hatter? Taking the Internet seriously? Perhaps if you lightened up and learned to take it all in stride you could appreciate the verbal conflagration of my word art...rather than using it as an excuse to try and play victim (or encouraging someone else to use it in that fashion). >Erwin Moller > >PS: >Zach, don't pay too much attention to assholish reactions like this. What, what?! Are you suggesting he don't take the Internet seriously?! ZOMG WTF TEH WHUL WURLD WILL END!11!!! >In general comp.lang.php is a better place to post than the this one >(alt.comp.lang.php). More people read it, so better responses. A greater number of posters does not necessarily equate to better responses. You obviously confuse quantity with quality. >Good luck with PHP! Yeah he's gonna need it. -- Onideus Mad Hatter mhm ¹ x ¹ http://www.backwater-productions.net http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog Hatter Quotes ------------- "You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the best." "I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you with it." "I'm not a professional, I'm an artist." "Your Usenet blinders are my best friend." "Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!" "Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my bad." "There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..." "The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols." "Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?" "Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others of its relevancy." "Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper." "Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are." "People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just givin em out for free." "Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere. So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest, to their merry little mess." "There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible images burned into their tiny little minds'." "How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts." "Those who record history are those who control history." "I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage, endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you don't get sent to me...I come for you." "Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head." "Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a function?" "Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid. Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast indicates an increase in Webtv users." "Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww, gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, ) |
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Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
<snipped> As a "starter", I have "starter questions". If you don't like my questions, then don't answer them. As to your language: if you cannot talk to me without mentioning your private parts and what you seem to be doing with them, then please don't. Zach. |
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Myspace.com community is in shock as Onideus Mad Hatter was arrested for
Cyber stalking and Homosexal acts with a minor. Myspace.com officials and Federal agents were in shock this morning when Onideus Mad Hatter was arrested at 2:30 am this morning for cyberstalking underage children. Onideus Mad Hatter was arrested for using web sites to post sexual content to lure unsuspecting children in. The FBI was called in because Onideus Mad Hatter used the internet to find the victims over the internet. Police received the call from Top Myspace officials earlier this week and they worked with the local poice dept. to set up the largest single person arrest in the history of Myspace.com. Myspace.com had deleted several sites that Onideus Mad Hatter posted prior showing full nudity and sex they had had with children as young as 6 years old. When a concerned parent called Myspace.com they realized they had problems. Tom was quoted as saying " You know this shit did not happen before I sold myspace.com". The Police had to wait until Hatter logged on. The officers sent a message on the Myspace IM (Instant messenger) and as soon as Onideus Mad Hatter responded the police officers broke in the door stormed the room where the computer was and arrested Onideus Mad Hatter. During a search of the residence Police officers discovered many pornographic item`s mostly videos. Some of the names included Young Lickalatpuss, Big Sausages for Small Buns, and If their grass on the field shave it and play. Officers ask Onideus Mad Hatter why they are so in to young kids. The answer was most disturbing. Onideus Mad Hatter said "You know it's like the best sex you can have. Watching the blood leak from the holes as you penetrate them is the best. You know you are like Columbus. You are the one to discover that new land". Onideus Mad Hatter was released in just a couple hour's when their parents posted the $150,000 bail. If you feel there is an error in this please contact the editorial dept. here . Thanks Jamal |
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..oO(Zach)
>Onideus Mad Hatter wrote: > ><snipped> > >As a "starter", I have "starter questions". If you don't like my >questions, then don't answer them. As to your language: if you cannot >talk to me without mentioning your private parts and what you seem to be >doing with them, then please don't. Learn how to use a killfile. OMH is one of the worst Usenet trolls and not worth to talk with. My newsreader automatically deletes all of his postings. You can do the same - you won't miss anything. Micha |
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Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:51:18 +0100, Erwin Moller > <Since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much@spam yourself.com> wrote: > >>>> Why does Larry Ullman in his book "PHP for the world wide web" >>>> have Print ("something"); >>>> in his book if it is Bulltwit? > >>> I have no idea who the fuck Larry Ullman is, nor do I particularly >>> give a fuck either. 10 to 1 though says you've got some kind of >>> reading comprehension problem and 'ol Larry was just using an example >>> of common programming syntax in other languages. And no offense or >>> anything but spending money on a book for PHP is just...fuckin stupid >>> at best considering this site: >>> http://us3.php.net > >> Keep it civilized Mad Hatter. > > This is Usenet, Kiddo, not some teddy bear fucking picnic surprise of > a ban happy Webbie board. If you don't like it you can retard on back > to Webbie land with all the ban happy wannabe tin God mod pricks who > wanna hold yer hand, wipe your ass for you and make dat mean 'ol > Internet bad man go all away when he upsets you to the point of > staining yer frilly little pink training panties in every other post. Hi Hatter, Despite the good advise Micha gave me (killfile you), I didn't give up on you (yet). Summarizing your 'reply': So this is Usenet/Internet, and not some teddybear-blabla-party. So it is better if I stop trying to civilized/helpfull, and scream/rant around a little more, and try to be maximal insulting? Right. Thanks for sharing that with me. If that text was some silly form of humor, allright, fine with me. (But I would advise you to watch a few episodes of Blackadder, you skills are in serious need of some polishing, insultingwise. Insulting is an art, not just a random string of unfriendly words.) > >> No need to bully a newbie around. > > LOL, as if that post even remotely resembled bullying. See this: > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.f...40a63eea26ff44 > ...that's "bullying" (at least as far as my standard goes). Who cares where that link goes? I don't. Most probably it leads to a nice summary of your ideal of Usenet. > >>> ...you really shouldn't need anything more than that to learn how to >>> program in PHP, and if you do, well, you best not consider it for a >>> career. > >> What do you know? > > I know enough to tell the difference between a college flunkie and a > programming artist. YOU know that difference? A guy that comes in regularry in comp.lang.php with the most obvious basic questions? A guy that JUST showed us NOT to be aware of a language construct named print in PHP, one of the most basic things that exist in PHP? Let alone the difference between print and echo? And YOU are the guy that will tell us the difference between a programming artist and a flunkie. Grow up a little and try to get this into your head: What seems obvious for you today, was complex for you a year ago. What you think is complex today, was complex for some of us 20 years ago, and obvious today. This is not a very hard lesson. Give it some thought please. Did you give it some thought? Why do you read on while I just asked you to give it some thought? Oh I know, because you don't give a damn about anything I tell you. But as I said: I didn't give up on you and have this remote hope you will improve your silly behaviour, or at least stop buggering us. And another thing that probably REALLY triggers your trolling: The harder you piss on other people, the more obvious it is TO ALL OF US you are a silly insecure kid badly in need of attention. Positive or negative attention, as long as anybody gives you any, you are happier than without. Doesn't it feel really good I take the time to write all this to you? Wow, I gave 5 minutes of my precious time to you. Really, nobody thinks you are cool, smart, whatever. You really make a fool of yourself, and are completely transparant to anybody with any life experience. Transparant you are, believe that. Not cool. Not smart. Just a poor silly kid. This is not ment insulting, just as a sincere observation. ....... <-- Feel free to rant here, telling me what a idiotic shit-eating noobcase I am. That is how you always react. > >> Maybe this Zach has 10 times more talent than you have? >> How can you tell? > > I can tell by the fact that he can't even get the most BASIC of basic > things to work in PHP...despite near limitless resources on the > web...despite his buying some PHP for dummies book that likely > explains every little minute step involved in setting everything up. Yes, despite limitless resources on the web, even YOU, the Mad Hatter also wasn't aware of a language construct called print. > > Here's a fun idea...go email every single high level programmer you > know...and ask them if they ever had trouble getting "print" to work. > I mean, let's be brutally honest here...it's like showing up in a > programming froup and asking, "How do I program "Hello World". Ever tried that in Java? If you never seen the language, that would keep you busy for some time. Not every language has echo. > >> You are overconfident and rude to Zach. > > I'm rude to everyone (not to mention an uber arrogant bastard)...so I > don't see what the problem is. That is the problem. The fact you think a wiseass remark, like the one above, impresses anybody with an IQ over 60. It's not as if this is some new > posting style. And if you don't like...hey, put yerself on some > blinders (filters) and shut yourself the fuck up. I for one will be > happy to rid as much fumbling stupidity from my glorious thread > offshoots as possible. sigh.... Believe me, I REALLY SINCERELY appreciate a good insult. I really do. You just don't have any talent at all. Go work on it, come back to insult me anytime later if you want to test your abilities. > >> Give the guy some room... > > Nah, best to tear 'em down early, rip out the weak so only the strong > will survive. Breeding competition and rivalry to further the art. I would advocate that to loudly in your case... > >>> Also, stop top posting, it makes you look like a retard when you can't >>> even comprehend something as simplistic as thread continuity. > >> That is true for this group, but not for all. > > Yes, FOR ALL Usenet groups you DO NOT FUCKING TOP POST...EVER! > > If you can't comprehend why that is, you're a dumbfuck of epic > proportions. Hell if you top post, you must be so fuckin stupid you > read books backwards, starting with the last page and working your way > down to page one. Honestly, thread continuity is not something that's > very difficult to gasp and the only REAL excuse for doing it is if you > haven't enough sense to evolve past the deficiency of Outhouse Express > (which treats Usenet posts like e-mails). You don't have to explain that to me Hatter. I don't like topposting for the same obvious reasons. In some groups however, topposting to totally acceptable. If you didn't know that, shouting will not fix it. > >> The fact that Zach didn't know that is completely forgivable. > > Hey I asked nice the first time...which is pretty generous considering > my character. > >> A simple correction might be in place, instead of calling him a retard. > > Where's the fun in that? > >> Having a bad day Hatter? > > Taking the Internet seriously? Perhaps if you lightened up and > learned to take it all in stride you could appreciate the verbal > conflagration of my word art...rather than using it as an excuse to > try and play victim (or encouraging someone else to use it in that > fashion). Take the Internet seriously? Depends on where I am and who I write it to. Play victim? Zach or me? Whatever. I don't understand from what dark caves that crept out of your head, but I would advise you to talk about it with somebody specialized in the psyche. (Not me) Your 'word art'? Again: Go buy/download some Blackadder, and learn the art of insulting. You are a total beginner in need of a correction. Here it is: You are NOT insulting, you are only rude. Rudeness is the insult of the less talented. > >> Erwin Moller >> >> PS: >> Zach, don't pay too much attention to assholish reactions like this. > > What, what?! Are you suggesting he don't take the Internet > seriously?! ZOMG WTF TEH WHUL WURLD WILL END!11!!! If I dropped in here for the first time and I met somebody like you, I would be very happy if somebody else told me you were the local troll. > >> In general comp.lang.php is a better place to post than the this one >> (alt.comp.lang.php). More people read it, so better responses. > > A greater number of posters does not necessarily equate to better > responses. You obviously confuse quantity with quality. Wow, you are really a deeeeeep guy. :P Lighten up Hatter. Erwin Moller > >> Good luck with PHP! > > Yeah he's gonna need it. > > -- > > Onideus Mad Hatter > mhm ¹ x ¹ > http://www.backwater-productions.net > http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog > > > Hatter Quotes > ------------- > "You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the > best." > > "I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you > with it." > > "I'm not a professional, I'm an artist." > > "Your Usenet blinders are my best friend." > > "Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!" > > "Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my > bad." > > "There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..." > > "The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols." > > "Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity > of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?" > > "Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct > that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others > of its relevancy." > > "Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start > creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper." > > "Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are." > > "People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that > they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just > givin em out for free." > > "Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere. > So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest, > to their merry little mess." > > "There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly > horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip > their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand > sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible > images burned into their tiny little minds'." > > "How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even > properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts." > > "Those who record history are those who control history." > > "I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage, > endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you > don't get sent to me...I come for you." > > "Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton > tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head." > > "Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a > function?" > > "Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid. > Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast > indicates an increase in Webtv users." > > "Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww, > gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, ) |
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I would just like to correct myself, print is also a language construct
that *behaves* like a function. - Michael Michael wrote: > Zach wrote: >> >> Why does Larry Ullman in his book "PHP for the world wide web" >> have Print ("something"); >> in his book if it is Bulltwit? > Because it's legal syntax. >> >> Zach. >> >> Onideus Mad Hatter wrote: >>> On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 00:22:27 +0100, Zach <xx@xx.xx> wrote: >>> >>>> I am totally new to php >>>> Question: >>>> I am working on a Vista box. >>>> *.php files are displayed OK by the browser, >>>> however, >>>> >>>> print("something"); >>>> >>>> does not lead to "something" being displayed. >>>> What is the cause / what should I do? >>>> >>>> Zach. >>> >>> Try echo "something"; > > print is a function, echo is a language construct. This means you can > use print in complex expressions such as: > > $s ? print "true" : print "false"; > > Echo can take multiple arguments such as: > > echo 'hello', ' ', 'world!'; > > where as print can only take one, > > print('hello world!'); > > - Michael |