PHP or ASP or??

Hi folks,

I am wondering which server technology should be used for a site like
www.amigos.com I notice they are using cgi but I don't think this is the
best method.

I want to create a site with similiar features. Separate male and female
Log-in, user createable and updateable profile, restricted access, have some
icons ( graphics) display dependant on level of membership, etc..

Which route would be the best way to go?

David

Hi,
Well I have and do use both, however for what it's worth here's my two
pennies worth. I'd go for PHP as it's extremely flexible and runs on both
Linux and Windows based servers and systems. Although ASP ansd ASP.net can
run on a linux based system it's not terribly stable in my personal
experience.

Although I think the syntax to me was easier to learn for ASP I don't really
like the idea of being walled into mainly windows based systems. I am lucky
enougfh to have a server that runs both well, so to me I pick what language
I thik best solves the problem in the quickest time. Sounds like it would
be a good idea for you to learn to use PHP and MySQL databases together. (A
damn powerful tool!) But on a side note when using databases be aware that
it's always a goodc idea to back up the DB regulalry. I didn't with one of
my sites and when it went down as the whole thing was pulled from the DB I
lost everything:(
Hope this helps.
Merry Xmas

Wayne...

"David" <haha@hahaha.com> wrote in message
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> Hi folks,
>
> I am wondering which server technology should be used for a site like
> www.amigos.com I notice they are using cgi but I don't think this is the
> best method.
>
> I want to create a site with similiar features. Separate male and female
> Log-in, user createable and updateable profile, restricted access, have
some
> icons ( graphics) display dependant on level of membership, etc..
>
> Which route would be the best way to go?

Hi David,

Go for ASP, PHP is crap. Seriously though, any answer you will get is going
to be heavily biased, since you are posting to a group for PHP users.
However, for what it's worth, I think PHP is far superior to ASP.net (I
haven't used ASP).
ASP.net is supposed to be easy to use, which I guess it is until you want to
do something that there isn't a pre built control for. Then it becomes very
tedious. Not to mention the fact that ASP has to be hosted on Windows; I
hear disagreement. Ok, it doesn't HAVE to be, but there's absolutely no
point in using ASP if you're going to be running it on Linux using MySQL.
Windows servers cost a shit load of money, and so do ASP developers because
they'll demand that you buy SQL Server and give them a pension, company car,
use of your wife etc. PHP developers will just expect some money and pizza.

By cgi, I presume you meant Perl? Because PHP can be ran as a cgi, but for
what it's worth, there's nothing wrong with Perl, it's been used for some
very large projects and has been around longer then PHP or ASP.

So, back to the question, do you use PHP or ASP? Well, in my opinion I'd
have to go with Java.

Nathan

Treefrog wrote:
> Go for ASP, PHP is crap.

If that's your opion, what are you doing in a PHP newsgroup?


JW

"Janwillem Borleffs" <jw@jwscripts.com> wrote in message
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> Treefrog wrote:
> > Go for ASP, PHP is crap.
>
> If that's your opion, what are you doing in a PHP newsgroup?

That isn't my opinion. That is 6 words taken from an entire sentence that
said something utterly different. I know sarcasm is the weakest form of
humour, but if even the weakest form evades you, you're probably beyond
help.

Treefrog wrote:
> That isn't my opinion. That is 6 words taken from an entire sentence
> that said something utterly different. I know sarcasm is the weakest
> form of humour, but if even the weakest form evades you, you're
> probably beyond help.

You're probably right...


JW

"Janwillem Borleffs" <jw@jwscripts.com> wrote in message
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> Treefrog wrote:
> > That isn't my opinion. That is 6 words taken from an entire sentence
> > that said something utterly different. I know sarcasm is the weakest
> > form of humour, but if even the weakest form evades you, you're
> > probably beyond help.
>
> You're probably right...

Ahh, that's better ;o)

Thanks for the input everyone.

I am hosting at crystaltech on a standard plan
http://www.crystaltech.com/standardshared.htm

They do use Windows servers and here is what they say about this particular
plans hosting options

***
ASP/ASP.NET, Perl and PHP enabled shared hosting for people looking to build
either basic HTML sites or fully dynamic environments.
***

So either language would be an option. I know I'm on a PHP newsgroup so the
answers will be biased of course. Just hoping for an honest answer which
would be the best to use for me considering I am a newbie to dynamic sites
and will have to learn as I go.

I know javascript very well so I'm no stranger to programming languages.
Just server side technologies is where I'm a newb. I've also heard that
ColdFusion is even easier than ASP or PHP to learn and implement.

I'm just looking for the easiest, best way to go here for learn as I go and
a technology that will actually work for this site.

David

"David" <haha@hahaha.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the input everyone.
>
> I'm just looking for the easiest, best way to go here for learn as I go
and
> a technology that will actually work for this site.

ASP is probably not worth investing time into because it will be a dead
language in the near future as asp.net takes over. Which leaves two viable
choices; ASP.net or PHP.

When I'm not on a web project, I code C# all day creating windows apps. Even
though I use the language a lot I still hate asp.net. PHP is just so much
nicer to work with and learn.
PHP also has a more open source based community, windows coders don't often
like to give stuff away, although I'd be lying if I said they never did.

So there you have it, an honest, balanced opinion; PHP is the way forward.