"P.T. Breuer" <ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es> wrote in message
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> stewart menday <stewart at webstorm.net.au> wrote:
>
> > "P.T. Breuer" <ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es> wrote in message
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> > > Please do not top post! I'll fix this one ...
>
> > As the question was so short I didn't think it mattered if I "Top
Posted"
>
> Then why do it?

You do it because it is quicker, simple start typing.

> It takes effort to write over the top of something,
> constantly glancing down at the post to see what you are replying to,
> and writing the answer to the question in a different place altogether.
>

Not if you know what the question was. I think it takes longer to write
your answer in multiple places. I agree that if the message/question is
long that it is easier to understand.

> In fact I don't know how you do it! How do people answer a post more
> than 22 lines long by top posting? They can't see what they are talking
> about when talking about it!
>

22 lines maybe but you only made 2 points, the first was to say that my
question was wrong. How can a question be wrong? Only the answer can be
wrong. And the second was to look at the man file. You don't need much of
a memory to remember that.

> > > > "P.T. Breuer" <ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es> wrote in message
> > news:okhmsb.8pb.ln@news.it.uc3m.es...
> > > > > stewart menday <stewart at webstorm.net.au> wrote:
> > > > > > How do I get pppd to send messages to a file other then
/var/log/messages ?
> > > [...]
> > > > I was aware that it is syslog that does the logging and that
pppd will
> > > > be logged to wherever the daemon facility is logged, but I want to
log it to
>
> > > So what's your problem?
>
> > I thought that was obvious
>
>
> It isn't at all obvious what your problem is, since you say that you
> are aware of the situation. Being aware of it, what can your problem
> possibly be?
>
Problem, I have a broken leg, being aware of it doesn't fix it.

> It's like saying "I want a can of peas", and "I am aware the can of
> peas is in the cupboard". Great! Fantastic! So what's your problem?
> Go get 'em!
>
I don't know where the cupboard is.
>
> > > Are you struggling manfully to ask if the log facility with which pppd
> > > is normally logged coincides with that of some other daemon, so that
> > > syslogd cannot separate them? Or if pppd can be configured to send
> > > directly to a file instead of to syslog?
> > >
> > It doesn't really matter, either will do, as long as the messages end up
in
> > their own file
>
>
> No, either will not do. The answer can be negative to both or either.

If you had told be how to do either of these I would of been happy. I don't
think you can separate the daemon facility messages (maybe you can) so the
only way that I know of (now) is to use the logfile option.
>
> Anyway, why didn't you ask that? You said that you knew syslog does the
> logging, so you have to configure syslogd. What was your problem?
>
I don't know how to separate the daemon messages. Do you?
>
> > > Well, if that is the case, I suggest you take lessons in expressing
> > > yourself. And then read the man page for pppd to discover the answer
to
> > > the question you should have put to yourself. I already told you how:
> > >
> > > man pppd /log
> > >
> > > It really isn't hard, you know!
> > >
> > > But then you're slow? Here's a whopping clue, just for you:
> > >
> > >
> > > nolog Do not send log messages to a file or file descrip
> > > tor. This option cancels the logfd and logfile options.
>
>
> > Your time would have been better spent answering my question then in
trying
> > to insult me. You must be very insecure if you need to insult people in
> > order to feel good.
>
>
> I don't need to insult you (in order to feel good or not!). You insult
> yourself! Did you have some problem doing the man pppd /log thang? For
> the third time of asking ...
>
> This is like talking to a tortoise.
>
I have to admit that I find your responses very amusing!
>
> Peter

Stewart